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Stolen Souls · Apr 22, 2008, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Anet doesn't make it easy for scammers. The ones being scammed do.

Use common sense. If it sounds too good to be true, it is. Triple-check before clicking "accept". Don't drop your crap on the ground outside, ever.

TheBuck · Apr 22, 2008, 10:25 PM // 22:25

whitedragon, guessing youve been scammed one to many times. if thats the case dont get mad at Anet for your foolishness, ive been play for what will soon be 3 years and i have never been scammed. i think it may have something to do with just thinking.

Med E Vac · Apr 22, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35

ArenaNet doesn't care about scammers and they seem preoccupied with real money traders to the point where it has been hurting their reputation and innocent users. For an example, a guild mate was recently banned and her account was marked for buying a couple stacks of iron with in game gold from a known real money trader in olafstead, though this guild mate did not know this user was a real money trader

I myself was recently scammed about a month ago and after reporting and going through a long fight with ArenaNet I can confirm to you that they do nothing about it. I and many others have now been having a long fight with this scammer as he continues to try and abuse other users. I haven’t discussed this much here at guru since it would be closed as I suspect this thread will be shortly.

They also don't seem to care if you buy accounts with in game gold since this scammer and others I know have done just that.

There are a few other reasons why you are seeing more scammers now:

One being the fact the game is turning into a grind game (in an effort to try and keep people playing so that it delays the inevitable ghost town guild wars is becoming).

Another is the fact people want more money for titles, pets, armor etcetera.

Finally the most glaring reason would be the awful trading system Guild Wars has, to the point where I believe it to be the worst trading system of any currently active major MMO game.

If you were scammed I suggest that you only trade with users that you trust and even then always take pictures. Otherwise use auction sites such as the quality auction site guru has here.

StormDragonZ · Apr 22, 2008, 10:38 PM // 22:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifesRestorer

it's not easy for scammers because the trade system is pretty full proof. unless you're a comlpete RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing moron you won't get scammed

QFT.

Best part is when I tell them someone is a scammer and buying it over 5k is too high, they still buy it for 15k, and try to sell it for other people for 20k.

How do you like that math?

HawkofStorms · Apr 22, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

People dumb enough to get scammed aren't smart enough to use /report.

Also, you don't need a "scammer" option on a /report. An a.net employee looks over all /report cases' chat logs. They will see what happened. Just report them for... anything.

beregond · Apr 22, 2008, 10:41 PM // 22:41

3 years playing...never been successfully scammed. I've seen through every last one attempted on me.

How about...use common sense? Don't be gullible? Research prices? Its not anet's fault. Its the stupid people who want duplicate items and sit there dropping their crap on the ground.

/end thread

whitedragon · Apr 22, 2008, 10:57 PM // 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBuck

whitedragon, guessing youve been scammed one to many times. if thats the case dont get mad at Anet for your foolishness, ive been play for what will soon be 3 years and i have never been scammed. i think it may have something to do with just thinking.

Hmmmm is this the same thing as not bright enuff to read all the posts before

you post.....kind of thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Also, you don't need a "scammer" option on a /report. An a.net employee looks over all /report cases' chat logs. They will see what happened. Just report them for... anything.

Thats good if its true but if they leave the dis it wont work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Med E Vac

ArenaNet doesn't care about scammers and they seem preoccupied with real money traders to the point where it has been hurting their reputation and innocent users. For an example, a guild mate was recently banned and her account was marked for buying a couple stacks of iron with in game gold from a known real money trader in olafstead, though this guild mate did not know this user was a real money trader

I myself was recently scammed about a month ago and after reporting and going through a long fight with ArenaNet I can confirm to you that they do nothing about it. I and many others have now been having a long fight with this scammer as he continues to try and abuse other users. I haven’t discussed this much here at guru since it would be closed as I suspect this thread will be shortly.

They also don't seem to care if you buy accounts with in game gold since this scammer and others I know have done just that.

There are a few other reasons why you are seeing more scammers now:

One being the fact the game is turning into a grind game (in an effort to try and keep people playing so that it delays the inevitable ghost town guild wars is becoming).

Another is the fact people want more money for titles, pets, armor etcetera.

Finally the most glaring reason would be the awful trading system Guild Wars has, to the point where I believe it to be the worst trading system of any currently active major MMO game.

If you were scammed I suggest that you only trade with users that you trust and even then always take pictures. Otherwise use auction sites such as the quality auction site guru has here.

Thank You someone who sees what i see

Fay Vert · Apr 22, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03

While all these "don't get scammed" messages are all fine and dandy, it IS a poor report system that doesn't give good choices for the reason and doesn't allow the name THAT YOU TYPED IN! to be accepted for some stupid "not in district" reason.

OP is perfectly correct in suggesting this

/signed

whitedragon · Apr 22, 2008, 11:07 PM // 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fay Vert

While all these "don't get scammed" messages are all fine and dandy, it IS a poor report system that doesn't give good choices for the reason and doesn't allow the name THAT YOU TYPED IN! to be accepted for some stupid "not in district" reason.

OP is perfectly correct in suggesting this

/signed

Thank You for seeing the point of this.

Master Sword Keeper · Apr 22, 2008, 11:19 PM // 23:19

scammed for being stupid = fail.

Ripping a scammer off = Win button

Just dont be gulliable enough to think somethin's too good to be true.

As someone's already said. Check it 3 times.

nuffsed

/threadclose

JoeKnowMo · Apr 22, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24

I got scammed... when I clicked on this thread.

xxDEEDSxx · Apr 22, 2008, 11:27 PM // 23:27

Scamming is in no way easy in this game. let me give you a run down of the trade system.

trader puts something in, he submits offer, you see it, you think that its not fair you click decline...OR you see that it is a fair you put in your money/item you click submit offer, you both accept and walk away happy...IF he changes something you get a very nice big red box in his window SAYING he changed something. at which point you see if you or he made a mistake to see if hes trying to mess with you...This system is perfect and nothing is worng with it as long as you check both screens to see if there right.

The Red Messenger · Apr 22, 2008, 11:27 PM // 23:27

can you imagine the flood of false scam reports they would get?

every angry trader that paid 20k too high would report because he cant tell the difference between a scam and a hiked price tag.

and all the tired gamers that would get reported because they didnt put the exact amount in the window teh first time by accident...

they made it hard to report because they dont have the manpower to sort thru millions of claims

whitedragon · Apr 22, 2008, 11:30 PM // 23:30

WOW ok i got to ask it. Out of all you 3 years ive neeeeeveeeer been

scammed folks how many have you scammed?

I love how when any one makes a thread about trying to make a better way to do something you get all this hate but yet i see many threads about how this is broke or that is fail

ursan anyone

xxDEEDSxx · Apr 22, 2008, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Red Messenger

every angry trader that paid 20k too high would report because he cant tell the difference between a scam and a hiked price tag.

Hes also right heres a news flash to some people out there paying to much for a item is your own fault and no one elses.

xxDEEDSxx · Apr 22, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33

this isnt someone trying to make something better though its more of a complaint

fusa · Apr 22, 2008, 11:36 PM // 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Med E Vac

Otherwise use auction sites such as the quality auction site guru has here.

I hope you're being sarcastic about guru auction site being quality, the system is just as bad as in game. 70-90% bids I've received from people were never honored. Mostly just to raise the price of their own items, to mess with people or some other idiotic reason. Many times I've had b/o's and contacted the person 10 minutes after posted and set to ignore. Some people are allowed to make 4 threads in 24 hours selling the exact same item with nothing being done even after being reported. While others bump 10 minutes early and are banned.

UnKn0wN415 · Apr 22, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38

do you need A-net to hold your hands...

scamming is stupid but only an idiot will get scammed...

whitedragon · Apr 22, 2008, 11:41 PM // 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxDEEDSxx

this isnt someone trying to make something better though its more of a complaint

Your right it is a complaint with a way to make it better.

Put scammer in the /report and take out the rule you have to be in the same dis to do so

o m g pizowned · Apr 22, 2008, 11:46 PM // 23:46

if your definition of a scammer is someone asking 100k for something, or buying an item for a low price..then QQ.
people enable scammers.